Linux is the gift that is going to keep on giving for years to come. At least a windows box can be usually fixed. Good luck getting a vendor that went out of business 3 years ago to help you.
I wouldn't call "re-install" a fix, no matter for how many years now it *has* been the only reliable fix. But I am happy for your enthusiasm, and I will try not to be so smug. Really.
I wouldn't call "re-install" a fix, no matter for how many years now it *has* been the only reliable fix.
Not a fix at all, especially if you have a highly configured computer and many programs.
Amazing how Windows users can thump their Chests like a silverback Gorilla, about an OS so terrible that starting over again is even considered good advice.
Although I know a few who bought a whole new computer because of a virus. I wonder if they replace the engine every time they need to change oil?
Why don't you just restore your system from a clean backup, the type you take in case of drive failure, theft or fires.
Anytime I make a major set of changes i take a clean backup of the system. Data is obviously already backed up in snapshots elsewhere.
Also, fuck systemd and that shit. BSD did in twenty minutes what systemD took 13 hours to figure out last night. Not directly related but worth repeating.
I don't know about Olsoc's installation but maybe because it's not possible. For example, I have 100+ VST instruments and effects installed on my Windows machine, each of them with a complicated DRM scheme that requires sending emails, logging into websites, etc. It takes about one week of full work or 4-6 weeks of spare-time work to restore the system into a workable state. I know that because I recently changed my system.
Sure you can blame the software companies for their crappy DRM schemes, but for some
If you know that a restore from scratch is onerous, then take a golden image of your machine from a usable state with all your apps installed. Problem solved. Clonezilla. Invoice is in the mail.
This. Seriously, if you have that much time and effort spent in getting a Windows box where you need it to be usable for you, and you didn't make a backup image and/or you aren't making periodic backups, you are a complete moron and deserve to get screwed when shit goes awry.
If that's the case you should have a spare HD with a cloned image, or take regular images with an appropriate tool. I used to use a pxe boot server and image systems to samba share. A real easy way is to use this guy [system-rescue-cd.org]When you boot back to windows, that space is invisible and unaccessible to malware. You can always boot back to linux and restore your system.
lost some comment there with a open tag.
use the system rescue cd to resize your disk (gparted), and leave empty space at the end. Format that end space with a linux filesystem (xfs). Windows can't see it, but you can store a compressed image of your system using dd, partimage, or fsarchiver.
If that's the case you should have a spare HD with a cloned image, or take regular images with an appropriate tool. I used to use a pxe boot server and image systems to samba share. A real easy way is to use this guy [system-rescue-cd.org]When you boot back to windows, that space is invisible and unaccessible to malware. You can always boot back to linux and restore your system.
And you hope that there isn't malware on that clone. the concept of re-cloning every time you get an update - which for the number of programs I have would mean every day - is not a solution, it's masochism.
I suppose for people that only have the basics of Microsoft office, a peripheral or two and it wouldn't matter.
On my Mac, Time Machine can reinstall everything, but even that takes a good while. On my PC's, I just plan on nucing it from orbit in the unulikely event it gets pwned.
You could use veam's free windows client to backup to a usb, NAS, or separate internal drive. It will create bootable media for you to restore from. You can even include distinct credentials for the NAS, so malware won't cross over to it.
You could use veam's free windows client to backup to a usb, NAS, or separate internal drive. It will create bootable media for you to restore from. You can even include distinct credentials for the NAS, so malware won't cross over to it.
So you are saying tht the exact same numbers of malware and virus exist for Linux and PC, and that Windows is just as secure?
Consider that at least you were smart enough to post AC.
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
But hey - IIRC Windows ten is the most Secure Windows ever! Like W8, like W
So you are saying tht the exact same numbers of malware and virus exist for Linux and PC, and that Windows is just as secure?
I don't see that statement in QPs comment. So... you like putting words in other peoples mouths to make a point?
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
Is it not true that Linux is used on many millions of IoT and network devices? Is it not true that oftentimes the makers of these devices do not provide any meaningful support after the release of the devices? Is it not true that over and over again such devices are found to have fixed passwords, gaping security holes ore are using libraries with known security problems?
So you are saying taht the exact same numbers of malware and virus exist for Linux and PC, and that Windows is just as secure?
I don't see that statement in QPs comment.
So... you like putting words in other peoples mouths to make a point?
I like cutting to the chase. Trying to parse his comment wasn't easy, bit in the end, I just decided that since he was expounding something superior abut Windows over Linux with the cryptic at least they can be fixed comment - I just took a stab at what he was trying to say. Don't like it? sue me.
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
Is it not true that Linux is used on many millions of IoT and network devices? Is it not true that oftentimes the makers of these devices do not provide any meaningful support after the release of the devices? Is it not true that over and over again such devices are found to have fixed passwords, gaping security holes ore are using libraries with known security problems?
And trying to conflate the issues of IOT with a Linux install on a PC is disingenuous. Having a fixed password and lack of support or updates is a manufacturer's issue, not a problem with Linux My Linux installs
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I disagree! https://www.wired.com/story/re... [wired.com]
Linux is the gift that is going to keep on giving for years to come. At least a windows box can be usually fixed. Good luck getting a vendor that went out of business 3 years ago to help you.
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I wouldn't call "re-install" a fix, no matter for how many years now it *has* been the only reliable fix. But I am happy for your enthusiasm, and I will try not to be so smug. Really.
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I wouldn't call "re-install" a fix, no matter for how many years now it *has* been the only reliable fix.
Not a fix at all, especially if you have a highly configured computer and many programs.
Amazing how Windows users can thump their Chests like a silverback Gorilla, about an OS so terrible that starting over again is even considered good advice.
Although I know a few who bought a whole new computer because of a virus. I wonder if they replace the engine every time they need to change oil?
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Why don't you just restore your system from a clean backup, the type you take in case of drive failure, theft or fires.
Anytime I make a major set of changes i take a clean backup of the system. Data is obviously already backed up in snapshots elsewhere.
Also, fuck systemd and that shit. BSD did in twenty minutes what systemD took 13 hours to figure out last night. Not directly related but worth repeating.
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I don't know about Olsoc's installation but maybe because it's not possible. For example, I have 100+ VST instruments and effects installed on my Windows machine, each of them with a complicated DRM scheme that requires sending emails, logging into websites, etc. It takes about one week of full work or 4-6 weeks of spare-time work to restore the system into a workable state. I know that because I recently changed my system.
Sure you can blame the software companies for their crappy DRM schemes, but for some
Re: Dammit! (Score:1)
If you know that a restore from scratch is onerous, then take a golden image of your machine from a usable state with all your apps installed. Problem solved. Clonezilla.
Invoice is in the mail.
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use the system rescue cd to resize your disk (gparted), and leave empty space at the end. Format that end space with a linux filesystem (xfs). Windows can't see it, but you can store a compressed image of your system using dd, partimage, or fsarchiver.
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If that's the case you should have a spare HD with a cloned image, or take regular images with an appropriate tool. I used to use a pxe boot server and image systems to samba share. A real easy way is to use this guy [system-rescue-cd.org]When you boot back to windows, that space is invisible and unaccessible to malware. You can always boot back to linux and restore your system.
And you hope that there isn't malware on that clone. the concept of re-cloning every time you get an update - which for the number of programs I have would mean every day - is not a solution, it's masochism.
I suppose for people that only have the basics of Microsoft office, a peripheral or two and it wouldn't matter.
On my Mac, Time Machine can reinstall everything, but even that takes a good while. On my PC's, I just plan on nucing it from orbit in the unulikely event it gets pwned.
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You could use veam's free windows client to backup to a usb, NAS, or separate internal drive. It will create bootable media for you to restore from. You can even include distinct credentials for the NAS, so malware won't cross over to it.
Just like Grandma does.
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"I wonder if they replace the engine every time they need to change oil?"
Now you're just being silly. We replace the car since you never know if any of the oil managed to get out and stuck to something else.
Gotta think ahead. That's why linux users will never see their year on the desktop.
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"I wonder if they replace the engine every time they need to change oil?"
Now you're just being silly. We replace the car since you never know if any of the oil managed to get out and stuck to something else.
Gotta think ahead. That's why linux users will never see their year on the desktop.
ahhh, my bad!
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Consider that at least you were smart enough to post AC.
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
But hey - IIRC Windows ten is the most Secure Windows ever! Like W8, like W
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He was only responding with a smart assed remark since you posted your own smart assed remark.
You're way too serious, old man.
PS, fuck your lawn.
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He was only responding with a smart assed remark since you posted your own smart assed remark.
You're way too serious, old man.
PS, fuck your lawn.
ps.. Not exactly serious - more like enjoying trolling some folks. Jes sayin'
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more like enjoying trolling some folks
Please go back to reddit and leave us alone...
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So you are saying tht the exact same numbers of malware and virus exist for Linux and PC, and that Windows is just as secure?
I don't see that statement in QPs comment.
So... you like putting words in other peoples mouths to make a point?
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
Is it not true that Linux is used on many millions of IoT and network devices? Is it not true that oftentimes the makers of these devices do not provide any meaningful support after the release of the devices? Is it not true that over and over again such devices are found to have fixed passwords, gaping security holes ore are using libraries with known security problems?
That doesn't make the proble
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So you are saying taht the exact same numbers of malware and virus exist for Linux and PC, and that Windows is just as secure?
I don't see that statement in QPs comment.
So... you like putting words in other peoples mouths to make a point?
I like cutting to the chase. Trying to parse his comment wasn't easy, bit in the end, I just decided that since he was expounding something superior abut Windows over Linux with the cryptic at least they can be fixed comment - I just took a stab at what he was trying to say. Don't like it? sue me.
Silly AC - this is not a tit for tat, where you point out a Linux problem as if it were teh equal of a Windows problem. Sorry, but we are talking about a body of work, and Windows is lapping the field several timas regarding it's abysmal security.
Is it not true that Linux is used on many millions of IoT and network devices? Is it not true that oftentimes the makers of these devices do not provide any meaningful support after the release of the devices? Is it not true that over and over again such devices are found to have fixed passwords, gaping security holes ore are using libraries with known security problems?
And trying to conflate the issues of IOT with a Linux install on a PC is disingenuous. Having a fixed password and lack of support or updates is a manufacturer's issue, not a problem with Linux My Linux installs
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You just don't want people to criticize Windows.