Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda. The China-mafia can also take their cut through over-regulation - preventing streamers from popping up and suffocating them with regulation. And if streamers DO make it through the gauntlet, it will have to be Commie positive propaganda. If it's not state-sponsored propaganda, and someone has donated to the cause - now they can track you down too and put a boot on your face.
For every complex problem has a solution which is simple, direct, plausible — and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken
FTA:Livestreaming -- a segment that contains e-commerce, online gaming and entertainment activities -- has flourished during COVID-19-related restrictions on social activity. But criticism is growing about the behavior of some programs, including manipulation of viewership data, the sale of incorrect products and the appearance of pornographic content.
So a measured response is to identify previously anonymous grifters and create a "blacklist" of repeated offenders and at the same time halt teenagers from spending their red envelopes on...what was that figure again?
FTA:In the first six months of 2020, the company produced revenue of 17.3 billion yuan ($2.64 billion) from livestreaming, mostly via virtual gift income. That represents 68.5% of Kuaishou's total revenue.
How much did Apple earn from children "'getting' apps with in-app purchases"? Across the globe?
But how China addresses some fraction of fraud behind its Great Wall to address teenage behavior known to be on the reckless side is "pretty obvious". Your political philosophy overview is as grounded in facts related by an article as an evangelical addresses national news with a bullhorn on a street corner and holding a placard that reads The Time Is Nigh.
You have never been to China, have you? You could try streaming China Central Television (CCTV) for a flavour of what state broadcaster content looks like. You will be surprised.
Anyway this is about things like women soliciting donations on their streams. Nothing pornographic, more like Instagram or Twitch. It's about people broadcasting banned news which are hard to filter because they don't have AI capable of monitoring all the streams in real-time. Some of it's about piracy, people ripping off PPV.
You have never been to China, have you? You could try streaming China Central Television (CCTV) for a flavour of what state broadcaster content looks like. You will be surprised.
Anyway this is about things like women soliciting donations on their streams. Nothing pornographic, more like Instagram or Twitch. It's about people broadcasting banned news which are hard to filter because they don't have AI capable of monitoring all the streams in real-time. Some of it's about piracy, people ripping off PPV.
How cute, you think native English speakers can speak a 2nd language? They expect everybody else to speak English, it's a privilege they think they enjoy.
I assume you meant to say it's a privilege they think they deserve. English speakers for the most part do enjoy the privilege of not needing to speak other languages to consume most online content. This privilege isn't just in their heads.
Pseudo-Marxist-SJW IT guy AmiMojo defends Chinese government. News at 11. Why you guys just don't move to China I'll never understand. You will be SO MUCH HAPPIER THERE. Why stay in the UK? They will love you in China! You will last about five minutes there.
News at 11. Why you guys just don't move to China I'll never understand. You will be SO MUCH HAPPIER THERE. Why stay in the UK? They will love you in China! You will last about five minutes there.
~Russki3433
It's film at eleven because 1950-70s local, syndicated news programs broadcast in the early evening required the time it took to process film to be shown in the late evening broadcast.
The Chinese people, especially outside cities, have anticipated western guests for over two generations-- one might be received like a celebrity and frequently asked to pose for a photo even before smartphones made their expense trivial. Outside large cities, foreigners are still that rare. The Chinese government, on the o
Yeah we get it: US is bad and China is good. "Being Black in America" and going to public schools means that you can become President (and get re-elected) just like Barack Obama. Try that in China.
It's pretty obvious that this is both about party-approved discourse, like cracking down on free HK messages, and about taxes. That's why there is a real name requirement, there's no good reason for that otherwise. "The livestreaming platforms should prioritize social benefits and spread the positive energy," is obvious code for "no critical speech will be tolerated". Making excuses for fascism is not a good look, dude.
Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them. You are just enabling them, making it harder for others to understand China and putting them in a position where there is no incentive to do anything right because you will find some way to condemn it anyway.
It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.
It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.
They want to make the mistake of Fascism instead. But any locking down of social media can only be in order to control the narrative, and keep the people ignorant of their actions.
I completely agree that they want to control what information is put out, I said so in my original post. What I'm saying is that they may have other motivations too, not all of which are 100% totalitarian evil.
I want thing to get better in China, I have family there. Telling them that their government is evil doesn't work though, they have quite a high opinion of it in general and while part of that is down to misinformation and censorship it's also in large part down to the fact that their lives have drama
You assume there is some exemplar country out there with citizens of supreme civic duty which are not by and large an ignorant populace. A citation is needed for which country this could be, because none come to mind.
It's a bingo... We can agree the measure is authoritarian but we should make a better statement on the nature of that authority. The Chinese government attempts to operate like a parent and likewise why these actions are mainly aimed at curbing the spending from minors.
I also do not know if westerns know just how common place phones are in china for usage with media and likewise just how seamless the cashless society is that exists here. It's very easy for these behaviors to become an addiction.
The Chinese government is very concerned about addiction among the young. Gambling is illegal but it's hard to craft a law that covers things like mobile games and loot boxes.
They don't want an Onlyfans type situation developing I'm sure.
Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them.
Evil is arguably in the eyes of the beholder. China may or may not be motivated by evil depending on one's viewpoint. However, it's clear that China's leadership is motivated by control. It's the obsession with control and the willingness to go to extremes to exert that control that are disturbing.
Money laundering is also another example of why you would want to keep track of who is sending money around. Bribes too.
You think anyone needs reminding that critical speech won't be tolerated? I think they know that by now, it's hardly a new thing.
They also limit how many hours kids can play online games and such. They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.
They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.
This is the biggest part of it. To avoid this addiction. I have been close to being sucked into it before. These measures effectively are to try to protect the most vulnerable while still allowing the majority to continue these frivolous pursuits. In this way, I have a lot of respect for these kinds of measures by China which is a kin to "good parenting".
It's a deterrent to stop young people spending all their money on sweet nothings. Banning teenagers also requires enforcing real names/ID policy so that if said teenagers used their parents money to pay, the gift would show under their parents names, not that of the teenager wishing to "profess their love"
It's got bugger all to do with communism because if it was about that, they'd just place more restrictions on the streamers through vetting requirements (e.g. criminal record checks, social credit requi
Commies don't like competition for headspace (Score:1, Flamebait)
Pretty obvious what this one is all about.
Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda.
The China-mafia can also take their cut through over-regulation - preventing streamers from popping up and suffocating them with regulation.
And if streamers DO make it through the gauntlet, it will have to be Commie positive propaganda.
If it's not state-sponsored propaganda, and someone has donated to the cause - now they can track you down too and put a boot on your face.
All in the national interest of course. ;)
Re:Commies don't like competition for headspace (Score:4, Insightful)
Pretty obvious what this one is all about.
~Neo-Rio-101
For every complex problem has a solution which is simple, direct, plausible — and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken
FTA:Livestreaming -- a segment that contains e-commerce, online gaming and entertainment activities -- has flourished during COVID-19-related restrictions on social activity. But criticism is growing about the behavior of some programs, including manipulation of viewership data, the sale of incorrect products and the appearance of pornographic content.
So a measured response is to identify previously anonymous grifters and create a "blacklist" of repeated offenders and at the same time halt teenagers from spending their red envelopes on...what was that figure again?
FTA:In the first six months of 2020, the company produced revenue of 17.3 billion yuan ($2.64 billion) from livestreaming, mostly via virtual gift income. That represents 68.5% of Kuaishou's total revenue.
How much did Apple earn from children "'getting' apps with in-app purchases"? Across the globe?
But how China addresses some fraction of fraud behind its Great Wall to address teenage behavior known to be on the reckless side is "pretty obvious". Your political philosophy overview is as grounded in facts related by an article as an evangelical addresses national news with a bullhorn on a street corner and holding a placard that reads The Time Is Nigh.
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You have never been to China, have you? You could try streaming China Central Television (CCTV) for a flavour of what state broadcaster content looks like. You will be surprised.
Anyway this is about things like women soliciting donations on their streams. Nothing pornographic, more like Instagram or Twitch. It's about people broadcasting banned news which are hard to filter because they don't have AI capable of monitoring all the streams in real-time. Some of it's about piracy, people ripping off PPV.
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You have never been to China, have you? You could try streaming China Central Television (CCTV) for a flavour of what state broadcaster content looks like. You will be surprised.
Anyway this is about things like women soliciting donations on their streams. Nothing pornographic, more like Instagram or Twitch. It's about people broadcasting banned news which are hard to filter because they don't have AI capable of monitoring all the streams in real-time. Some of it's about piracy, people ripping off PPV.
How cute, you think native English speakers can speak a 2nd language? They expect everybody else to speak English, it's a privilege they think they enjoy.
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it's a privilege they think they enjoy.
I assume you meant to say it's a privilege they think they deserve. English speakers for the most part do enjoy the privilege of not needing to speak other languages to consume most online content. This privilege isn't just in their heads.
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Pseudo-Marxist-SJW IT guy AmiMojo defends Chinese government. News at 11. Why you guys just don't move to China I'll never understand. You will be SO MUCH HAPPIER THERE. Why stay in the UK? They will love you in China! You will last about five minutes there.
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News at 11. Why you guys just don't move to China I'll never understand. You will be SO MUCH HAPPIER THERE. Why stay in the UK? They will love you in China! You will last about five minutes there.
~Russki3433
It's film at eleven because 1950-70s local, syndicated news programs broadcast in the early evening required the time it took to process film to be shown in the late evening broadcast.
The Chinese people, especially outside cities, have anticipated western guests for over two generations-- one might be received like a celebrity and frequently asked to pose for a photo even before smartphones made their expense trivial. Outside large cities, foreigners are still that rare. The Chinese government, on the o
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Yeah we get it: US is bad and China is good. "Being Black in America" and going to public schools means that you can become President (and get re-elected) just like Barack Obama. Try that in China.
Re: Commies don't like competition for headspace (Score:1)
Reality check.
Having lived in China, USA and Saudi, I agree to 100% with what you wrote.
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It's pretty obvious that this is both about party-approved discourse, like cracking down on free HK messages, and about taxes. That's why there is a real name requirement, there's no good reason for that otherwise. "The livestreaming platforms should prioritize social benefits and spread the positive energy," is obvious code for "no critical speech will be tolerated". Making excuses for fascism is not a good look, dude.
Re:Commies don't like competition for headspace (Score:5, Insightful)
Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them. You are just enabling them, making it harder for others to understand China and putting them in a position where there is no incentive to do anything right because you will find some way to condemn it anyway.
It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.
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It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.
They want to make the mistake of Fascism instead. But any locking down of social media can only be in order to control the narrative, and keep the people ignorant of their actions.
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I completely agree that they want to control what information is put out, I said so in my original post. What I'm saying is that they may have other motivations too, not all of which are 100% totalitarian evil.
I want thing to get better in China, I have family there. Telling them that their government is evil doesn't work though, they have quite a high opinion of it in general and while part of that is down to misinformation and censorship it's also in large part down to the fact that their lives have drama
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keep the people ignorant of their actions.
You assume there is some exemplar country out there with citizens of supreme civic duty which are not by and large an ignorant populace. A citation is needed for which country this could be, because none come to mind.
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It's a bingo... We can agree the measure is authoritarian but we should make a better statement on the nature of that authority. The Chinese government attempts to operate like a parent and likewise why these actions are mainly aimed at curbing the spending from minors.
I also do not know if westerns know just how common place phones are in china for usage with media and likewise just how seamless the cashless society is that exists here. It's very easy for these behaviors to become an addiction.
Likewise the
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The Chinese government is very concerned about addiction among the young. Gambling is illegal but it's hard to craft a law that covers things like mobile games and loot boxes.
They don't want an Onlyfans type situation developing I'm sure.
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Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them.
Evil is arguably in the eyes of the beholder. China may or may not be motivated by evil depending on one's viewpoint. However, it's clear that China's leadership is motivated by control. It's the obsession with control and the willingness to go to extremes to exert that control that are disturbing.
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Money laundering is also another example of why you would want to keep track of who is sending money around. Bribes too.
You think anyone needs reminding that critical speech won't be tolerated? I think they know that by now, it's hardly a new thing.
They also limit how many hours kids can play online games and such. They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.
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They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.
This is the biggest part of it. To avoid this addiction. I have been close to being sucked into it before. These measures effectively are to try to protect the most vulnerable while still allowing the majority to continue these frivolous pursuits. In this way, I have a lot of respect for these kinds of measures by China which is a kin to "good parenting".
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It's got bugger all to do with communism because if it was about that, they'd just place more restrictions on the streamers through vetting requirements (e.g. criminal record checks, social credit requi
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What about Canada [parl.ca]?
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"Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda."
The propaganda phase was over in the last millennium.
Now it's the "do as we say or we send the brute squad"-phase.
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Pretty obvious what this one is all about.
Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda.
Huh? Online streaming is government propaganda, or at least an opiate for the masses so that government can manipulate them more easily.
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