Amateur radio seems to be overly restricted in the States. I have little interest trying to participate in a P2P communication system where encryption is explicitly forbidden. Also, the fact my country would prosecute me for communicating internationally with someone who lives under a repressive regime seems totally bogus.
I have little interest trying to participate in a P2P communication system where encryption is explicitly forbidden.
Some encryption is allowed, and the prohibition is against the use of codes or ciphers to obscure the meaning, not explicitely against all encryption. HSMM (ham WiFi) uses WEP (maybe WPA, I don't know) and gets away with it.
What's more important is that amateur radio isn't supposed to be used for things that would really require encryption anyway. No commercial use. You can't order a pizza, so you don't need to send anyone your credit card number, for example. The HSMM folks need to keep non-hams from usi
Your pizza example is a bad one because they specifically allow that now (as of like, decades ago actually).
No, they do not. Stop spreading such patently absurd information. Read the rules sometime. Like this one [gpo.gov], 47CFR97.113(a)(2) and (3):
97.113 Prohibited Communications
(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
(2) Communications for hire or for
material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;
(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a
pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer.
This wouldn't appear to prohibit you ordering the pizza, just the use of amateur radio to reply by the pizza dealer, but then there's this, same section:
(b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor
may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules;
And gosh if I can find a specific exemption from this one-way communication prohibition for "pizza shop".
Now maybe the rules in YOUR country differ, but in the US of A the FCC rules apply, and the FCC rules still prohibit the use of amateur radio for commercial purposes -- with very few exceptions, none of which cover buying pizza.
Restricted (Score:3)
Re: (Score:2)
I have little interest trying to participate in a P2P communication system where encryption is explicitly forbidden.
Some encryption is allowed, and the prohibition is against the use of codes or ciphers to obscure the meaning, not explicitely against all encryption. HSMM (ham WiFi) uses WEP (maybe WPA, I don't know) and gets away with it.
What's more important is that amateur radio isn't supposed to be used for things that would really require encryption anyway. No commercial use. You can't order a pizza, so you don't need to send anyone your credit card number, for example. The HSMM folks need to keep non-hams from usi
Re: (Score:0)
Your pizza example is a bad one because they specifically allow that now (as of like, decades ago actually).
Re:Restricted (Score:2)
Your pizza example is a bad one because they specifically allow that now (as of like, decades ago actually).
No, they do not. Stop spreading such patently absurd information. Read the rules sometime. Like this one [gpo.gov], 47CFR97.113(a)(2) and (3):
97.113 Prohibited Communications
(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
(2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;
(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer.
This wouldn't appear to prohibit you ordering the pizza, just the use of amateur radio to reply by the pizza dealer, but then there's this, same section:
(b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules;
And gosh if I can find a specific exemption from this one-way communication prohibition for "pizza shop".
Now maybe the rules in YOUR country differ, but in the US of A the FCC rules apply, and the FCC rules still prohibit the use of amateur radio for commercial purposes -- with very few exceptions, none of which cover buying pizza.