How about, please stop putting this on the front page. By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page. You know "Slashdot, News for Nerds. Stuff that counts." Idiots on the Internet isn't news and none of this counts. BTW why can't you delete all the posts made by somebody? If they didn't post as an AC then a simple query should bring up their posts and then you could delete them or at least the body of the message. Of course it wouldn't take out replies or quoted text. Yes I do know the difference between possible and practical but this does seem possible but I should wouldn't want to have to do it.
I enjoy getting it on the front page. Besides, as a user pointed out in the first installment, there's an option in your user controls to not show them on the front page.
From the top of this page click on "Preferences." Then click on "Help & Preferences." Now find the "Index" section under "Your Preferences" and click on the link for "Sections." Find "Idle" in the list and select the radio button in the column headed by a red circle with a line through it. Click the "save" button and you're all set.
How about, please stop putting this on the front page.
How about all you fucking whiners spend 5 minutes learning how to set a few preferences and STFU? You guys are as bad as the parents who want lily-white safe TV for their kids to watch but are offended at suggestions they simply use the on/of button on their remote instead.
"Slashdot is supposed to be a mature community " You must be very new here:) Slashdot is full of trip, flame wars, script kiddies, all flavor of zealot, intolerance, and a few sparks of brilliance that make it all worth while. In other words it mirrors life pretty dang well.
Funny but I don't think that they do. I have made a post and then found out that I was wrong thanks to a realy. Then the funny thing is my post got modded up and the post that was correct was modded down. It really sucks because I actually felt bad that more people got to read my incorrect post than the right answers. As to more mature than Fark/Digg/Engadget? Well I don't go to Fark I usually just use my RSS viewer to read Engadget. Digg? Well I have stated that Digg makes Slashdot seem like a nice place full
Slashdot is full of trip, flame wars, script kiddies, all flavor of zealot, intolerance.[...]
Yes, and until now the editors maintained a level of professional distance and restraint, which must have been supremely difficult to do and for which I have always had the highest respect. I've heard a lot of ill-considered gripes about Slashdot over the years, and I've rebuked them because I held the editorial staff in such high regard for exactly the reasons mentioned. This new direction feels lousy. It looks
1. ACs can not block it. Lots of people don't have accounts. 2. It still shows up on the RSS even if you block it. 3. It can not be block on the text only / Palm version of slashdot that people use on their mobils. 4. It isn't News or Stuff that Matters.
Notice that my "rude" email was a lot more polite than your reply. STFU? Feeling cranky are we? OMG did your BFF dis you:)
1. Maybe a good reason to create an account, or learn to ignore it. 2. Learn to ignore it. 3. Learn to ignore it. BTW, I use slashdot on my mobile with Opera Mini with www.slashdot.org, simplified, but with full functionality (including respecting my filters). 4. It's a lighter side of slashdot. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but you might consider that some people might have other tastes.
1,2,3,.. Why learn to ignore it. I really already do but why shouldn't I say that I don't think it should be on the front page? And 4. I don't mind a funny story every now and then. The problem is this is I think the third time we got these stupid emails on Slashdot. The first time was mildly amusing, the second was "oh this could be bad", this one means that we are going to keep getting these on the font page! I really don't find them funny. I think a lot of other people feel the same way. I do consider that ot
I guess you can say what you think, and I guess we can disagree on the interest of these stories.
I'm sorry if I came out as rude, that wasn't my intention. It's just that I don't think that the level of hate these stories are getting is warranted, and I wanted to voice a positive opinion on this.
You probably know that most people are pretty vocal while complaining, while silent when approving. I know I'm usually guilty of this, but as I read the threads here I noticed that the editors might get an idea that
Honestly because If you see the my first comment I just said please don't put it on the front page anymore and that I didn't think it was news or stuff that matters. Simple comment. Then get a rain of hell fire and profanity for voicing my opinion in what I felt was a polite manner. At this point it has gotten to the point of defending my right to say that I don't like something in a respectful manner. Your response was not what I consider rude but why ignore something that can be fixed? Why doesn't the RSS a
Dude. It's not about people wanting to avoid the glorification of mean-spirited, exclusionary, Jr. High editorializing. It's about lamenting the slide of Slashdot into the same gutter which swallowed television with it's 'reality' TV, day time talk shows, and people who cry 'whiner' because they don't/can't understand the issues at hand but still want to impose their ignorance on the rest of humanity. If you don't want to hear people complain about this slide into check-out counter journalism, then you mig
Gimme a fucking break. If you hate it here, go do your own site, with blackjack and hookers, then. Otherwise, STFU. Whiners like GP and you are just adding to the noise they're complaining about.
they don't/can't understand the issues at hand
I understand perfectly, you moron. You clicked on the link, posted, and just felt you had to be heard. Again, what the fuck are you doing here if you hate i
Ha ha! I see we have another 'live' one. (And I say that in quotes for a reason).
Laying it on a bit thick, aren't we?
No. Not at all, and you are an excellent example. "Juvenile, mean-spirited and exclusionary."
Incidentally, I see this kind of attack pattern repeated with these Billo types all the time. Rather than deny the truth in what you are saying, they instead attack your manner of describing it. One step removed from ad hom, it's the schoolyard equivalent of shooting down an argument because the
You are seriously trying to tell me that really, I'M the one spewing profanity while supporting the new editorial direction whereby Slashdot editors post front-page their "Let's make fun of people" news items? --That, really, it wasn't YOU doing this? That your posts, wherein you called everybody who disagreed with your position, "fucking whiners", were all an elaborate illusion I somehow managed to create for myself and that really, all along, YOU
Finally some sense (e.g. someone who agrees with me:-)
People who don't like idle should use the damn setting or learn to ignore it. Believe it or not, some of us still enjoy these articles.
BTW, the comparisson with the banning of violence and sex on or media because of the children is totally apt -- don't like it, don't use it, but don't ruin it for everyone else.
I have my own news site, and there's one major thing that Slashdot and my site have in common. We own our sites, therefore we can do anything we please on them.
I could declare tomorrow "random bullshit day", and run insignificant news from all over the world.
But, I'm sure they do like we do. We listen to our uses comments. We don't necessarily like them, but if we want our sites to grow, we listen and grow accordingly. We can't please anyone, so our own opinions have a lot to do wi
I guess you failed to notice that my "rude" email used the words please and I thought was actually pretty polite. Yep they can do what every they want and I do agree. That is why my rude email wasn't that rude.
I could declare tomorrow "random bullshit day", and run insignificant news from all over the world.
Please explain me how this is any different from/. when they do slashvertisement, or during the whole April month ?... Ah, yeah. I know. *You* don't have ponies.
Well the Slashvertisment can be interesting if it is an interesting product or service. And don't get me started on April. I will admit that April gets real old real fast. The thing is that I didn't post the first time we got this. I was going to let it go as a bad attempt as whimsy. Now this is what the third time we get to see three emails that are stupid? Once was at least a little interesting but I really hope it doesn't become an ongoing event.
1. I don't want to deal with trying to suss out threads that are missing some of their comments. If a delete comment as been replied to, where does that deleted comment go?
2. I don't want to venture into the slippery slope that could cause a site like Slashdot to lose common carrier protection.
Based on the visual structure, where comments have parents and grandparents, deleting a comment in the middle would make the rest of the structure break or lose context at least. I don't blame them for not wanting to outright delete comments, but maybe they could consider changing them to something like "This comment has been removed by the author".
That is why I suggested just to delete the body of the message. I left out the replace with place holder text but I thought that was pretty much an given.
Again I said it was technically possible. I also said that it would be a pain and not a great idea.
I hate it when people say "It is impossible" or "I can't do it" when they really can.
The correct answer is. No you posted on a public forum for all to see. It is possible but impractical because of the problems with replies. or No because I am not going to put in the work just because you want those posts deleted.
But "I can't" or it is "impossible" is just wrong.
or I can't because I have no power in this company? or it's impossible for someone with my clearance? I agree that superlatives are the worst, but it seems you are just complaining to complain here.
Not really I didn't have any complaint with them not doing it. I just made the statement that it was possible but probably not worth it and a bunch of people seemed to only get the part where I said it was possible. And yea one little twirp on here got to me with his foul mouth and kindergarten attitude. My original post was meant as a light hearted request to please not put these dumb letters on the font page anymore. If you read my "Rude" email I was very polite and even used the word please. I guess it was
How about, please stop putting this on the front page. By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
Also, the text-only slashdot.org/palm version of the homepage includes ALL idle entries making it harder for mobile users to enjoy the slashdot experience on the road. And there's no login option from the/palm page to take advantage of predefined user controls.
Wow! Do you suffer from obsessive/. story reading disorder so much you can't skip this stuff?
I've really enjoyed this one and the last one.
The degree of negativity and cynicism on/. these days is making me really understand why digg and reddit are becoming so popular -- and why k5 eventually died.
a simple query should bring up their posts and then you could delete them or at least the body of the message.
Of course it wouldn't take out replies or quoted text.
I can completely understand the/. decision to not delete posts on request. I read Slashdot as much for the comments, as for the articles. If they deleted posts in the middle, it would seriously affect the "logic flow" (I know, the term "logic" in this context is a stretch) of the comments. That's why I read without filters-- not because I want
BTW why can't you delete all the posts made by somebody?
The very last thing that this place needs is the ability to delete posts. It would be one of the most detestable things that could happen. On that thought alone you should be told to take a hike. It was a real shame that Slashdot couldn't lawyer up and tell Scientology to do the same thing.
Money will say more in one moment than the most eloquent lover can in years.
This makes me want to send a rude email. (Score:5, Insightful)
How about, please stop putting this on the front page. By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
You know "Slashdot, News for Nerds. Stuff that counts."
Idiots on the Internet isn't news and none of this counts.
BTW why can't you delete all the posts made by somebody?
If they didn't post as an AC then a simple query should bring up their posts and then you could delete them or at least the body of the message.
Of course it wouldn't take out replies or quoted text.
Yes I do know the difference between possible and practical but this does seem possible but I should wouldn't want to have to do it.
Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (Score:4, Funny)
Yes, definitely no idols! (Score:1)
> By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
Yeah, because we don't want to read about Britney Spears or other idols amongst articles about Times Roman, Helvetica etc.
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I enjoy getting it on the front page. Besides, as a user pointed out in the first installment, there's an option in your user controls to not show them on the front page.
From the top of this page click on "Preferences." Then click on "Help & Preferences." Now find the "Index" section under "Your Preferences" and click on the link for "Sections." Find "Idle" in the list and select the radio button in the column headed by a red circle with a line through it. Click the "save" button and you're all set.
Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (Score:5, Interesting)
How about all you fucking whiners spend 5 minutes learning how to set a few preferences and STFU? You guys are as bad as the parents who want lily-white safe TV for their kids to watch but are offended at suggestions they simply use the on/of button on their remote instead.
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Slashdot is supposed to be a mature community with articles that pertain to important items.
Visitors to the website will see this because they don't have a "Setting" to adjust.
I believe that this doesn't portray what Slashdot is about, and I think it needs to be moved off the front page.
Now chill....
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"Slashdot is supposed to be a mature community " :)
You must be very new here
Slashdot is full of trip, flame wars, script kiddies, all flavor of zealot, intolerance, and a few sparks of brilliance that make it all worth while.
In other words it mirrors life pretty dang well.
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They all get modded down.
For most visitors, the comments you read in articles are the more mature ones. I see Slashdot as more mature than Fark/Digg/Engadget etc....
I've also been a fark reader for years.
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Funny but I don't think that they do. I have made a post and then found out that I was wrong thanks to a realy. Then the funny thing is my post got modded up and the post that was correct was modded down.
It really sucks because I actually felt bad that more people got to read my incorrect post than the right answers.
As to more mature than Fark/Digg/Engadget?
Well I don't go to Fark I usually just use my RSS viewer to read Engadget.
Digg? Well I have stated that Digg makes Slashdot seem like a nice place full
Standards. (Score:2)
Slashdot is full of trip, flame wars, script kiddies, all flavor of zealot, intolerance.[...]
Yes, and until now the editors maintained a level of professional distance and restraint, which must have been supremely difficult to do and for which I have always had the highest respect. I've heard a lot of ill-considered gripes about Slashdot over the years, and I've rebuked them because I held the editorial staff in such high regard for exactly the reasons mentioned. This new direction feels lousy. It looks
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Even if you block idle from the front page, you still get it in the RSS feed.
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Then ignore it.
Or do you have to have a setting for everything in life?
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1. ACs can not block it. Lots of people don't have accounts.
2. It still shows up on the RSS even if you block it.
3. It can not be block on the text only / Palm version of slashdot that people use on their mobils.
4. It isn't News or Stuff that Matters.
Notice that my "rude" email was a lot more polite than your reply. STFU? Feeling cranky are we? OMG did your BFF dis you :)
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how do I get to the palm version of slashdot? I fucking hate fighting with blazer!
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http://slashdot.org/palm [slashdot.org]
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And we started caring about the welfare of ACs when?
It still shows up on the RSS even if you block it.
Meh. Can't really argue that point since I find RSS highly overrated.
It can not be block on the text only / Palm version of slashdot that people use on their mobils.
Yeah, you're getting the full
It isn't News or Stuff that Matters.
Who gives a shit? Slashdot, like
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1. Maybe a good reason to create an account, or learn to ignore it.
2. Learn to ignore it.
3. Learn to ignore it. BTW, I use slashdot on my mobile with Opera Mini with www.slashdot.org, simplified, but with full functionality (including respecting my filters).
4. It's a lighter side of slashdot. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but you might consider that some people might have other tastes.
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1,2,3,.. Why learn to ignore it. I really already do but why shouldn't I say that I don't think it should be on the front page?
And 4.
I don't mind a funny story every now and then. The problem is this is I think the third time we got these stupid emails on Slashdot.
The first time was mildly amusing, the second was "oh this could be bad", this one means that we are going to keep getting these on the font page!
I really don't find them funny. I think a lot of other people feel the same way.
I do consider that ot
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I guess you can say what you think, and I guess we can disagree on the interest of these stories.
I'm sorry if I came out as rude, that wasn't my intention. It's just that I don't think that the level of hate these stories are getting is warranted, and I wanted to voice a positive opinion on this.
You probably know that most people are pretty vocal while complaining, while silent when approving. I know I'm usually guilty of this, but as I read the threads here I noticed that the editors might get an idea that
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Honestly because If you see the my first comment I just said please don't put it on the front page anymore and that I didn't think it was news or stuff that matters.
Simple comment.
Then get a rain of hell fire and profanity for voicing my opinion in what I felt was a polite manner. At this point it has gotten to the point of defending my right to say that I don't like something in a respectful manner.
Your response was not what I consider rude but why ignore something that can be fixed? Why doesn't the RSS a
Whiners. . ? (Score:2)
Dude. It's not about people wanting to avoid the glorification of mean-spirited, exclusionary, Jr. High editorializing. It's about lamenting the slide of Slashdot into the same gutter which swallowed television with it's 'reality' TV, day time talk shows, and people who cry 'whiner' because they don't/can't understand the issues at hand but still want to impose their ignorance on the rest of humanity. If you don't want to hear people complain about this slide into check-out counter journalism, then you mig
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Laying it on a bit thick, aren't we?
It's about lamenting the slide of Slashdot
Gimme a fucking break. If you hate it here, go do your own site, with blackjack and hookers, then. Otherwise, STFU. Whiners like GP and you are just adding to the noise they're complaining about.
they don't/can't understand the issues at hand
I understand perfectly, you moron. You clicked on the link, posted, and just felt you had to be heard. Again, what the fuck are you doing here if you hate i
Just when you think it can't get any lamer. . . (Score:2)
Ha ha! I see we have another 'live' one. (And I say that in quotes for a reason).
Laying it on a bit thick, aren't we?
No. Not at all, and you are an excellent example. "Juvenile, mean-spirited and exclusionary."
Incidentally, I see this kind of attack pattern repeated with these Billo types all the time. Rather than deny the truth in what you are saying, they instead attack your manner of describing it. One step removed from ad hom, it's the schoolyard equivalent of shooting down an argument because the
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And it's pretty creepy, yikes.
Either that, or you're still new to this trolling stuff.
Either way, try harder.
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One word: Projection.
Projection?
Let me get this straight:
You are seriously trying to tell me that really, I'M the one spewing profanity while supporting the new editorial direction whereby Slashdot editors post front-page their "Let's make fun of people" news items? --That, really, it wasn't YOU doing this? That your posts, wherein you called everybody who disagreed with your position, "fucking whiners", were all an elaborate illusion I somehow managed to create for myself and that really, all along, YOU
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Finally some sense (e.g. someone who agrees with me :-)
People who don't like idle should use the damn setting or learn to ignore it.
Believe it or not, some of us still enjoy these articles.
BTW, the comparisson with the banning of violence and sex on or media because of the children is totally apt -- don't like it, don't use it, but don't ruin it for everyone else.
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Want to know a secret?
I have my own news site, and there's one major thing that Slashdot and my site have in common. We own our sites, therefore we can do anything we please on them.
I could declare tomorrow "random bullshit day", and run insignificant news from all over the world.
But, I'm sure they do like we do. We listen to our uses comments. We don't necessarily like them, but if we want our sites to grow, we listen and grow accordingly. We can't please anyone, so our own opinions have a lot to do wi
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I guess you failed to notice that my "rude" email used the words please and I thought was actually pretty polite. Yep they can do what every they want and I do agree. That is why my rude email wasn't that rude.
Regular /. (Score:2)
I could declare tomorrow "random bullshit day", and run insignificant news from all over the world.
Please explain me how this is any different from /. when they do slashvertisement, or during the whole April month ? ... Ah, yeah. I know. *You* don't have ponies.
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Well the Slashvertisment can be interesting if it is an interesting product or service.
And don't get me started on April. I will admit that April gets real old real fast.
The thing is that I didn't post the first time we got this. I was going to let it go as a bad attempt as whimsy. Now this is what the third time we get to see three emails that are stupid?
Once was at least a little interesting but I really hope it doesn't become an ongoing event.
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By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
Agreed. Throw me the idle, and I'll throw you the whip.
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1. I don't want to deal with trying to suss out threads that are missing some of their comments. If a delete comment as been replied to, where does that deleted comment go?
2. I don't want to venture into the slippery slope that could cause a site like Slashdot to lose common carrier protection.
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That is why I suggested just to delete the body of the message. I left out the replace with place holder text but I thought that was pretty much an given.
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Again I said it was technically possible. I also said that it would be a pain and not a great idea.
I hate it when people say "It is impossible" or "I can't do it" when they really can.
The correct answer is.
No you posted on a public forum for all to see.
It is possible but impractical because of the problems with replies.
or No because I am not going to put in the work just because you want those posts deleted.
But "I can't" or it is "impossible" is just wrong.
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or I can't because I have no power in this company?
or it's impossible for someone with my clearance?
I agree that superlatives are the worst, but it seems you are just complaining to complain here.
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Not really I didn't have any complaint with them not doing it. I just made the statement that it was possible but probably not worth it and a bunch of people seemed to only get the part where I said it was possible.
And yea one little twirp on here got to me with his foul mouth and kindergarten attitude.
My original post was meant as a light hearted request to please not put these dumb letters on the font page anymore. If you read my "Rude" email I was very polite and even used the word please. I guess it was
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How about, please stop putting this on the front page. By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
Also, the text-only slashdot.org/palm version of the homepage includes ALL idle entries making it harder for mobile users to enjoy the slashdot experience on the road. And there's no login option from the /palm page to take advantage of predefined user controls.
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Actually, they can delete replies posted by somebody - they did it in response to a DMCA takedown notice, one time, IIRC.
So, just DMCA your own posts...
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it's IDLE.slashdot.org like what your hands were before the devil made you post on slashdot, IDOL.slashdot.org is where you go to worship cowboy neil.
Also it's "Stuff that matters"
If you are going to complain about idiots on the internet, try not to be one.
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Wow! Do you suffer from obsessive /. story reading disorder so much you can't skip this stuff?
I've really enjoyed this one and the last one.
The degree of negativity and cynicism on /. these days is making me really understand why digg and reddit are becoming so popular -- and why k5 eventually died.
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I can completely understand the /. decision to not delete posts on request. I read Slashdot as much for the comments, as for the articles. If they deleted posts in the middle, it would seriously affect the "logic flow" (I know, the term "logic" in this context is a stretch) of the comments. That's why I read without filters-- not because I want
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BTW why can't you delete all the posts made by somebody?
The very last thing that this place needs is the ability to delete posts. It would be one of the most detestable things that could happen. On that thought alone you should be told to take a hike. It was a real shame that Slashdot couldn't lawyer up and tell Scientology to do the same thing.