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China Requires Real Names, Bans Spending By Teens In New Curbs On Livestreaming (nikkei.com) 57

New submitter SirKveldulv shares a report from Nikkei Asia: Livestreaming platforms now must limit the amount of money a user can give hosts as a tip. Users must register their real names to buy the virtual gifts, in addition to the ban on teens giving such gifts. The [National Radio and Television Administration, China's media watchdog] also asked the platforms to strengthen training for employees who screen content and encouraged the companies to hire more censors, who also will need to register with regulators.

The media regulator will create a blacklist of hosts who frequently violate the rules, and ban them from hosting livestreaming programs on any platform. "The livestreaming platforms should prioritize social benefits and spread the positive energy," the notification said. The administration also asked the platforms to strengthen training for employees who screen content and encouraged the companies to hire more censors, who also will need to register with regulators. The media regulator will create a blacklist of hosts who frequently violate the rules, and ban them from hosting livestreaming programs on any platform. "The livestreaming platforms should prioritize social benefits and spread the positive energy," the notification said.

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China Requires Real Names, Bans Spending By Teens In New Curbs On Livestreaming

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    • by buravirgil ( 137856 ) <buravirgil@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @06:22AM (#60760794)

      Pretty obvious what this one is all about.

      ~Neo-Rio-101

      For every complex problem has a solution which is simple, direct, plausible — and wrong.
      ~ H.L. Mencken

      FTA:Livestreaming -- a segment that contains e-commerce, online gaming and entertainment activities -- has flourished during COVID-19-related restrictions on social activity. But criticism is growing about the behavior of some programs, including manipulation of viewership data, the sale of incorrect products and the appearance of pornographic content.

      So a measured response is to identify previously anonymous grifters and create a "blacklist" of repeated offenders and at the same time halt teenagers from spending their red envelopes on...what was that figure again?

      FTA:In the first six months of 2020, the company produced revenue of 17.3 billion yuan ($2.64 billion) from livestreaming, mostly via virtual gift income. That represents 68.5% of Kuaishou's total revenue.

      How much did Apple earn from children "'getting' apps with in-app purchases"? Across the globe?

      But how China addresses some fraction of fraud behind its Great Wall to address teenage behavior known to be on the reckless side is "pretty obvious". Your political philosophy overview is as grounded in facts related by an article as an evangelical addresses national news with a bullhorn on a street corner and holding a placard that reads The Time Is Nigh.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      You have never been to China, have you? You could try streaming China Central Television (CCTV) for a flavour of what state broadcaster content looks like. You will be surprised.

      Anyway this is about things like women soliciting donations on their streams. Nothing pornographic, more like Instagram or Twitch. It's about people broadcasting banned news which are hard to filter because they don't have AI capable of monitoring all the streams in real-time. Some of it's about piracy, people ripping off PPV.

      • It's pretty obvious that this is both about party-approved discourse, like cracking down on free HK messages, and about taxes. That's why there is a real name requirement, there's no good reason for that otherwise. "The livestreaming platforms should prioritize social benefits and spread the positive energy," is obvious code for "no critical speech will be tolerated". Making excuses for fascism is not a good look, dude.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @08:53AM (#60761058) Homepage Journal

          Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them. You are just enabling them, making it harder for others to understand China and putting them in a position where there is no incentive to do anything right because you will find some way to condemn it anyway.

          It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.

          • It's entirely possible they have seen what a shitshow Facebook is and how it is fucking up Western countries and decided that they don't want to make the same mistake.

            They want to make the mistake of Fascism instead. But any locking down of social media can only be in order to control the narrative, and keep the people ignorant of their actions.

            • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              I completely agree that they want to control what information is put out, I said so in my original post. What I'm saying is that they may have other motivations too, not all of which are 100% totalitarian evil.

              I want thing to get better in China, I have family there. Telling them that their government is evil doesn't work though, they have quite a high opinion of it in general and while part of that is down to misinformation and censorship it's also in large part down to the fact that their lives have drama

            • keep the people ignorant of their actions.

              You assume there is some exemplar country out there with citizens of supreme civic duty which are not by and large an ignorant populace. A citation is needed for which country this could be, because none come to mind.

          • It's a bingo... We can agree the measure is authoritarian but we should make a better statement on the nature of that authority. The Chinese government attempts to operate like a parent and likewise why these actions are mainly aimed at curbing the spending from minors.

            I also do not know if westerns know just how common place phones are in china for usage with media and likewise just how seamless the cashless society is that exists here. It's very easy for these behaviors to become an addiction.

            Likewise the

            • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              The Chinese government is very concerned about addiction among the young. Gambling is illegal but it's hard to craft a law that covers things like mobile games and loot boxes.

              They don't want an Onlyfans type situation developing I'm sure.

          • Not sure why you consider anything that suggests China's government isn't motivated by pure evil is "making excuses" for them.

            Evil is arguably in the eyes of the beholder. China may or may not be motivated by evil depending on one's viewpoint. However, it's clear that China's leadership is motivated by control. It's the obsession with control and the willingness to go to extremes to exert that control that are disturbing.

        • Money laundering is also another example of why you would want to keep track of who is sending money around. Bribes too.

          You think anyone needs reminding that critical speech won't be tolerated? I think they know that by now, it's hardly a new thing.

          They also limit how many hours kids can play online games and such. They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.

          • They don't want everyone addicted to useless timewasting, but would prefer them to do something more productive instead.

            This is the biggest part of it. To avoid this addiction. I have been close to being sucked into it before. These measures effectively are to try to protect the most vulnerable while still allowing the majority to continue these frivolous pursuits. In this way, I have a lot of respect for these kinds of measures by China which is a kin to "good parenting".

    • "Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda."

      The propaganda phase was over in the last millennium.
      Now it's the "do as we say or we send the brute squad"-phase.

    • Pretty obvious what this one is all about.

      Online streaming takes away eyeballs and headspace from government propaganda.

      Huh? Online streaming is government propaganda, or at least an opiate for the masses so that government can manipulate them more easily.

    • Maybe letting young men give all their money to women online is just a bad idea. Once again China fixes the issue.
  • by tal_mud ( 303383 ) on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @05:21AM (#60760728)

    This article is a "dup" of itself

  • by jlar ( 584848 ) on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @07:51AM (#60760900)

    This is done by private companies. So it is moderation not censorship. So, please stop calling the employees doing this censors. They are moderators. Or something...

  • This is no different from what companies are already doing in the US for social media posts as well as live-streaming. The only difference is it is being ordered by the government in China in the name of keeping positive rather than executed by companies themselves. Even the large social media companies admitted to coordinating moderation recently, which we already knew was happening when suddenly one person gets banned across all major platforms at once. It’s not all the fault of these companies, the
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      • Anyone can stop using a service but lack of access to major social media is like locking someone out of the conversation. It’s like if we had a singing conversation in a giant auditorium and you were stopped from getting a microphone. It becomes literally impossible to perform at the same level. If these trillion dollar conglomerates are able to work together to block you from posting to 99% of the audience available in the internet as well as even block advertising your product or service, then how i
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          • The argument is frequently made that free speech keeps the crazies out where you can see 'em. I've made that argument before myself, in fact. This idea is utterly incompatible with the idea that social networking should never have existed. It's also fundamentally ridiculous because all networks which permit socializing are social networks. USENET was essentially a social network, for example, when coupled with other commonly provided services like mail, finger, and talk. Your client would let you follow peo

    • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

      The difference is in China you merely have to say something disparaging of the gov't to have your social score reduced, in the western world you have to tell dangerous lies or harmfully troll etc.

      You have a right to free speech but if your speech is endangering or hurting people then don't expect everyone to cooperate with you. You don't get to shout fire in a theatre that is not on fire, but the scumbags on the internet with their anti-vax messages and all of the rest of it are effectively doing this. It i

  • You know, I'd like to believe there aren't thousands of anti-authoritarian hacktivists attacking China every day? Certainly their should be.
    Is it too hard a target? Not high enough reputation? Or is it just not reported on?

    Anyone have any idea?

    • I'm not convinced that China has anything of value.

      American Big Tech is "hactivating" the hell out of all users no matter where they reside on the planet (void in some areas like China).

      Hacktivists of the caliber you're suggesting can pick and choose their cause. Perhaps they are busy trying to affect change in other areas like the immigration concentration camps in America and just don't have time for the Muslim camps in China.

      More likely, I think, hacktivists of caliber are abandoning the futility of soci

      • hmm.. so you are saying there isn't really anyone good enough , who actually cares about other people and freedom of information.
        I mean if you are targeting small potatoes like U.S violations vs billions of people , I guess you got to have your priorities. My guess is that most of them are just scared because the U.S might jail you but china is just as likely to take a hit out on you if you get caught.

        • ... hmm.. so you are saying ...

          hmm.. so this is what I'm saying:

          "I'm not convinced that China has anything of value.

          American Big Tech is "hactivating" the hell out of all users no matter where they reside on the planet (void in some areas like China).

          Hacktivists of the caliber you're suggesting can pick and choose their cause. Perhaps they are busy trying to affect change in other areas like the immigration concentration camps in America and just don't have time for the Muslim camps in China.

          More likely, I think, hacktivists of caliber a

  • ... is a duplication wherein it appears twice.

    TFS is a duplication wherein it appears twice.

  • It's almost as if they are controlled by a bunch of com... oh, wait.

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